^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See Current contributions. See Feb 06 contributions. See Jan 06 contributions. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^]x Fri Mar 31 13:28:01 2006 F21 in Springfield, Illinois =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] yahoo - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: Letters from the Afterlife Recommended Reading-- Writers: Elsa Barker - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 14 Years ago. Cause of Death: car accident; Aged: 27. --Details: Fell asleep at the wheel, was not wearing seat belt, while coming home from work one night. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: an extension of life. We are here on Earth for our own personal journey and death comes when we have gathered all the knowledge and growth that is neccessay for our best interest here on Earth. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was very young and only remember being scared about seeing the body. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: that it is still affecting me and those around me even though it has been 14 years. My father's death affects me everyday in my relationships and my inability to express emotion. My grandparents (my father's parents) are going through a divorce that has been in the making since my father's death. No one really talks about the accident or my father...so in that way it is still affecting all of us as well. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it is not scary and there doesn't have to be a mourning when someone dies but rather a celebration of life. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: the unity of family left behind when someone dies. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: searching my soul for inner strength and finding it in helping others. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: depression. --[My GrandMother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: became the person of support in my family. I never pegged myself as a strong person but when my grandma died suddenly I saw that I was the strongest person in the family and it gave me great joy to know that I could be there for them. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I couldn't be there in the room with my grandma for her last breaths. My aunt, uncle, grandpa, mom and step-dad were all there but my sisters and I could not and I would have liked to be. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: it was definitely a way to relieve stress. My sister and I, after our grandma's death, sat on our front porch, just down the road from where our family was gathering after the funeral, and we made up stupid songs and just laughed and laughed and laughed. I don't think I've ever laughed that hard in my life. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: spend more time with my dad. My mom and dad were divorced when I was very young and my dad moved away. I saw him a total of maybe five or six times before he died. I can't remember his voice or if he ever told me he loved me so for that I wish I could have spent more time with him. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: talk to my grandma before she died. I was two hours away at college when she was put in the hospital (from cancer) but the semester had just ended so I was able to come home. The semester ended on a Tuesday for me. I was home on Wednesday and she died on that Friday. It was like she waited for all our family to be there. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: my grandma died in the hospital the song they play over the loud speaker when a baby is born sounded. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the funeral. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I dream about my grandma because I feel as though she is really visiting me and it makes me miss her here. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I wonder those things all the time but I am strong enough in my faith to know that things worked out for the best. For some reason I lost my father at a young age and for some reason he won't be walking me down the aisle at my wedding. Perhaps it's because it allows someone else to take his place as my father. Whatever the reason I know it was in his best interest and mine. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... to not know if they are FOR SURE okay and some place better. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could disconnect from the world and be where they (my departed loved ones) are. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I feel like I am dreaming. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: nothing really. I don't recall the medical community being of significance in any of my loved ones' deaths. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: I wouldn't particularly call it hospice but it was great how my grandma was able to pass with her family around her and in no pain. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: little. Organzied religion wasn't so much as important as spirituality. Everybody that was there for my grandma's death were of different religious affliations but we were all spiritual and that meant the most. --Religious Affiliation: Lutheran (ELCA). --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: very real. --Regarding MONEY: I can't recall. --Regarding the FUNERAL: everybody was there primarily for us and secondarily for my grandma. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: that when my grandma died we had not yet contacted her mother, my great-grandma, about her death. Yet when we called her, my great-grandma, she said she knew because my gradma came to her in sleep. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : a lot of sleeping. My grandma also seemed to be in two worlds almost. Sometimes when she spoke she spoke of angels and things we didn't understand. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: there wasn't a lot of denial and I moved quickly to depression and stayed there for a long time. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': I mentioned earlier that my grandma spoke about angels and other things we could not understand. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: My grandma came to me in dreams frequently after she died. She still comes but not as often. She doesn't seem to offer an messages except for that she's there for me always. I was also visited in a dream by my father once when I was in high school (about 5 or 6 years after the accident). He only hugged me and when I awoke I still felt like he was hugging me. The loved one I most frequently get visits from is my great-grandmother on my mom's side. There is a certain silliness about her visits, like she's there to have fun with me. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I would want the people who do not want to respect the rights and wishes of the dying to know that that is very selfish behavior. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I have thought about these things. I can't say I have any fear about my own death. I am confident that where I go when I die is some place peaceful and beautiful and that I will enjoy it and not lose anything that I had loved on Earth. If I were to know that I would die very soon I think I would take special care to let my wishes be known about how I would like my body to handled and how I would like the remembrance services to go. I would also share my feelings with everyone I cared about. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: After my grandma died I had to go back to college for summer school. I was oddly enough taking a class called "Death and Dying in the Modern World" A lot of things came up in that class that helped me cope with her death. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? After the death of my grandma, my grandpa and I became very close. I am only his step-granddaughter and never felt particularly close to him or my grandma for that matter but I now feel like we are the closest. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Distractions What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Nothing at all --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I reached out to help many people in my family when my grandma died. I helped my mother with things around our house while my mom was down at my grandpa's house helping. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It has been helpful. I didn't realize how certain and comfortable I was about my own death. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? I think you need to offer more questions about the rights and wishes of the dying. Your question on the topic isn't set up to draw out much information. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sat Mar 25 08:24:03 2006 F51 in ohiousa = ?? = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] google search on "bardo" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Best Friend, 1 Years ago. Cause of Death: car-pedestrian accident; Aged: . --Details: She was over worked in her job, came home late at night, left her car running at the end of her drive way, and crossed the road to the mail box to get her mail. Witness says she stood and allowed one car to pass, and apparently was blinded by headlights of an oncoming car, and stepped right in front of it, and was killed. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: a new beginning, with a period of rest, where you review what you have accomplished, and determine what you still have to learn to evolve, and then choose another life to come back, and do it over again. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was too little to fully understand. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: Is she came to me twice in the form of energy that felt like a pleasant tingling all over my body. The first time, was shortly after she died, and I did not know what was happening. I told mt husband about feeling the energy. About 3 hours later, the phone rang with news that my friend had been killed, and it was late at night. Everyone in the house was up for a while. Later, when I went back to bed, the energy came to me again ,and I knew it was her saying good-bye, and letting me know it's not over. --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: it's not an ending. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: That my friend felt I was important enough to connect with after she moved to the next level. It has also left me wondering as rationale for other's who have died, not leaving behind such a remembrance. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Becoming a psychiatric-mental health nurse practitioner, who specializes in grief ,and being able ot help others who have suffered loses --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Things left undone --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: to tell him/her that it is okay to move on, that I will be all right, and go towards the light, we'll meet again --[My Best Friend's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: received a visitation after she died, and it is proof that there is no death --The most confusing point of death for me was when: people think a dead person has to be preserved in a box in some field. Why not just cremate and spinkle? Ashes to ashes, dust to dust - it just gets you there faster, and doesn't take up good land that could be used for the living. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: It's the anxiety and tension of the moment, and way to release. Some say the tears of happiness and of sadness are the same. Perhaps it is so for laughter as well. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: do one more fun excursion together --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: get up and speak at her funeral, play a good song, and make people laugh and cry. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: Ardelle visited me after she died --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: having funeral. Just a time of celebrating a life is important to me --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I see the Christmas gifts I bought for her that we had not had time to share --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I think it's just energy, and we are all connected by the energy of all that is. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... life isn't fair --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could Go and spend a little time over there and come back with an elevated paradym --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I Of course, shock, dibelief, sadness that we had more to do together. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: Respeck - as I am a member of the medical community --Regarding HOSPICE etc: N/A --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --Religious Affiliation: I am a spiritual person, always seeking to elevate my consciousness. --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: We are all of us in the Mississippi River, and we can choose to take many paths on tributaries, creeks, etc., but eventually, we are all back in the Mississippi, and heading out to the Atlantic Ocean. --Regarding MONEY: It is ridiculous how much funeral costs!!!! I would rather spend the money on the person when he/she is still alive. --Regarding the FUNERAL: How funerals are so much better when there is no minister/priest/clergy to preach, and just people standing up and reminiscing --The weirdest part of it all to me was: wanting the world to slow down, but life goes on. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : Mottling of the lower extremities. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: it is important to be there at the end --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': My grnadmothe saw nd talked with my dead cousning before her passing --RE: Near Death Experiences: I have twice been in tunnel during self healing processes, and saw beautiful colors and symbols. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I knwo she has plently of time to prepare our next adventure, and it's going to be good --If we were to visit one last conversation... I accomplished this by way of a psychic --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: See above --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: DO NOT put O2 on me, and I want to be cremated and sprinkled. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I would like to be around if/when I have any grandchildren, but I'm ready --What might you like your obit to say of you: My favorite color is green, the color of the heart chakra, and that I loved people, and tried to stop the pain where ever I encountered it. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Spoke with psychic --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? Meditation to create a gap - Eckart Tolle --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? The universe allowed me to connect with someone about qa year before Ardelle passes, with whom I can pass on all that I learned from her. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Passage of Time Having to be responsible for care and upbringing of 3 younger sisters, as mother went into deep depression, and did not emerge from her bedroom for any long period of time for 3 years. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Helping Other People cope --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I have been in service ot people most of all my life, and just be there. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - Sad for my loss, but happy for the one who has crossed over, and gets their reward - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? N/S ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon Mar 20 10:45:24 2006 F28 in Marietta, Georgia =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] dogpile search for "dying process" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Homemaker - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: The Bible Recommended Reading-- Writers: The Lord God through his prophets and disciples. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 1 Days ago. Cause of Death: complications from stroke; Aged: 79. --Details: My grandfather suffered a hemorraghic stroke after his daily swim on a Monday afternoon. After monitoring in ICU for 5 days, he was moved to a regular room on Saturday. When we went to visit him on Sunday, he was in a coma and his breathing was labored and quick at first, then throughout the day, he lost kidney and liver function. His breathing became more shallow and the time between breaths lengthened. Finally, he drew his last breath, and we watched his pulse in his neck as his heart stopped beating. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the opposite of birth. Our bodies take 9 months to go from single cell to complete human beings. While organs are switched on the womb, they turn off at death. In my experience where the heart has been the first organ to work, it has been the last organ to turn off. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was relieved that the suffering was over, that they were being reunited with loved ones who had gone before. I was sad for my remaining family and anxious about the after death responsibilities. I cried, I felt guilt for not spending enough time with them before they passed. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: The awesomeness of life itself, and the design of our Creator. We spent time as a family during the final hours of my grandfather, just holding his hand and stroking his head telling him that it was o.k. We were all there with him and loved him so much. He was in a coma, but I believe that he heard us...my father said a prayer aloud in the room thanking God for our grandfather and his testimony and example and thanking Him for our time with him on earth. We praised the Lord for him, and as soon as my dad said "amen", my grandfather took his last breath. I held his hand as his heart stopped beating, and just knew that he was in heaven. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: death is graceful, it is powerful, it is beautiful when the wishes of the dying are carried out. When the body is allowed to work as it was created, death is amazing and awe-inspiring. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: The grace with which my grandfather passed, and the priviledge of being there with him when he died. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: The love of my family and the hope that comes from the faith that we have that we will see him again with bodies that do not get sick! --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: missing his bodily presence with us and sharing our lives with him. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Talk to them, even if they don't respond, I believe they can hear are longing to hear you say that it's ok to go. The same affection you give to a baby who has just entered the earth, is the same affection someone needs who is leaving it. --[My GrandFather's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: am no longer afraid of facing my own death. It does not hold the same power of fear or uncertainty over me anymore...I have looked it square in the eye, and it is not the worst thing that can happen to me. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I realized I would have to explain this phenomenon to my children, and wondering why I cry when I talk about his passing even though I am so happy for him. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: death is so much a part of life, and our bodies are amazing...we laugh and enjoy each other's company and our bodies and minds protect us even in our emotional states. I really believe that our spirit knows that we are only passing through on earth, and our sadness is out of selfishness, our true self is happy for those who go Home. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: spend a bit more time just visiting and listening to my grandfather. Even though we were close, the last year we had both been very busy, and I wish we had just had more opportunities together. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be there in the end for him. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: Just the timing of the end of our final prayer and his last breath...it confirmed my faith to me in an even more concrete way. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I realized that my parents were now the patriarch/matriarch of my family and that I would be caring for them and watching them go one day too. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: Our belief in God and His Son Jesus who by dying on the cross became a sacrifice for our sins, making it possible for us to have personal relationship with God and ensuring that if we accept this truth on faith alone we will live with Him for eternity in heaven after our death or upon his return. --Religious Affiliation: Christian - non denominational --Regarding MONEY: my grandfather was a good planner and had a healthy estate that was untouched because of his investment in a good supplemental insurance plan. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System I know that she is with our Heavenly Father and she wanted to go... What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Guilt I wished that I had spent more time with her. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Mar 14 13:11:28 2006 F42 in atlanta, georgia = ?? = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Class Project of: ] research and assessment - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - More personal info: I would loke to have the results of the study sent to my email address of kimberlybowen.at.yahoo.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: Recommended Reading-- Writers: Joyce Meyers, T.D. Jakes, and Bishop Eddie Long - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Sister, 15 Years ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 25. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: a gateway into eternal life. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was very determined to be strong but fell apart after the death --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: giving up on life --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: Just because you cry doesn't mean you are not being strong --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: my sister and I were able to talk to eath other alot and tell each other how we appreciated each other --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: God --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the separation --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: if they want to talk about the death, allow them to --[My Sister's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: was able to talk about the death and after death --The most confusing point of death for me was when: why my sister had to die so young --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: It was strange --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: take more pictures or vidoe tape my sister more --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: go to the morge and help assessorize my sister for the funeral --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: My sister came to gripps with her death and sang victory songs --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: her appearance in the hospital --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I think about how much we loved each other --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... we would live happily in heaven and never have sorrows and death again --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that my sister died so young --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could die myself --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I extreme shock and sadness --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: satisfaction --Regarding HOSPICE etc: they were awesome --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: everything --Religious Affiliation: Christian --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: peaceful --Regarding MONEY: there was too little of it --Regarding the FUNERAL: my sister was greatly loved --The weirdest part of it all to me was: that I really wanted to die with her --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : the last minute sounds of dying --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: I didn't see any othe stages until after the death --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': that she went to heaven at the same time that she would have been up and attending church service. --RE: Near Death Experiences: my sister had visions of sitting on her tomb stone watching people who came to visit her --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: my state of affairs were awesome. We made peace with each other and shared all the way to the end --If we were to visit one last conversation... I don't have any last minute things that I wished I had said --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: nothing --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: If I have to be on life support in order to keep breathing, I would rather be dead. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I would make sure my relationship with the Lord is in tact --What might you like your obit to say of you: Her is a girl who truly loved God. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: praying --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? no --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? none - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - What Helped me most deal with death? Prayers What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Avoiding Everything --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I reached out by helping others that were in the hospital at the same time - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It brought back hidden feelings - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? no ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sun Mar 12 19:54:32 2006 Anon Guest in =Unknown Locale= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Aunt, 9 Years ago. Cause of Death: murder; Aged: 36. --Details: She was on a lake with her husband, who was charged with her murder after hitting her on the head and knocking her into the water, causing her to drown. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: Taking away someone we love, and never getting them back. It is bittersweet, but mostly bitter. Knowing they are in heaven is comforting, but it doesn't usually take away the pain of losing someone. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was young and didn't fully understand. --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: That our lives will go on, in a different way than we may have planned, and our loved ones are in a better place. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... I sometimes get jealous of my older brother and sister for getting to spend more time with my grandpa when we wasn't sick. I only have one memory of him being alive and it makes me sad. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities Being too young to really understand What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Memories to hold ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fri Mar 10 21:54:23 2006 F25 in Kingston, Tasmania =Australia= Name: Renee Lawler - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Bachelor of Arts 2nd Year(psych aim) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: Healing with the Angels, The Lightworkers Way, Messages from Your Angels/Crossing Over etc/ The Other Side and Back, Life on the Other Side etc Recommended Reading-- Writers: Doreen Virtue (Psychology PhD/Spiritualist) John Edward(Spirit Medium) Sylvia Brown(Spirit Medium/Clairvoyant) Raymond Buckland (The Complete Witches Handbook) Ralph Blum's rune Stones and Book. all writers with many books on their lives/guidance/teachings - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Mother-in-Law, 1 1/2 Months ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 45?. --Details: this person was no longer my mother in law, but had been three years ago for six years. i had kept in constant contact woth her and the family.this death was impending and i was too frightened to see her because i didnt think she wanted anyone around much. i later find this to be untrue. i knew thought that i would watch her die, from cancer specifically... i just KNEW. but my reasoning for this was that she held on to so much negativity and became hysterical everytime she couldnt control everyone and everything in her life. she created excessive stress in her life. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: when the job you have come down to earth is complete; when you have learned all the lessons you set for yourself to learn and experienced all those things you wanted to when you came here. its like going to school, and then graduating. death is the time that you (your soul) decides to depart the physical body and return to where all spirits abide.... a dimension our humanly eyes cannot see becuse the frequency of this place is too fast. this is where we came from before this incarnation, and, apart from certain circumstances, this is where we will reunite with all those who have returned before us and all the other "people" we have ever known who arent currently in an incarnation. so death is a celebratory thing for those who have "died" for it means that you achieved your learning goal. those who wish to come back can.... nothing is imposed upon you. you are free to choose whatever happens next, in a sense. haha i could go on for ages..sorry. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I well, a persons death.... that would be my pop. i totally dissociated from it, like i did and still do with most things. the shock was just so severe, i couldnt face it or think about it. didnt cry at the funeral. i became very good at that. i wondered what had happened. where was he?? i hadnt seen his body, so it seemed so surreal that i wasnt sure if he would just turn up one day. how could he go when i needed him?? i had lived with him and my nan for a lot of my life (mentally sick mother) so he was the only father figure i had ever known. it made me feel more unstable.i wouls talk to him a fair bit after he died.this would be the same for my dog. they happened not very far apart when i was around 14. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: my mother being more devastated than my heart and mind could handle. i hurt for her. she had been closest to him, and because of her mental state (axis 1 in psychology) she couldnt cope with that sort of thing. particularly when he was the closest to her, and he also was the most like her for he had paranoid schizophrenia, which had been under control since i was little. --What I think my (Australia) culture needs to better learn about death is: is not what they think it is. this comes from personal beliefs. they need to realise that death is not the end and that they should not feel bad for the person who has died. where they are now is a better place. this is because they are no longer in any pain or doscomfort... no longer plagued by negativity, hate, blame etc. all they see is love and they can see/visit whoever they like whenever they like. they are more concerned with how you down here are doing and getting on with your life. also that when it is their time to cross over, they will see them again. and in the entirety of eternity, even if 20 humanly years have passed, on the other side, it will seem like a mere nanosecond. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: i dont understnad what this question is asking.... i will attempt. you truly learn to appreciate someone once they are gone and you realise how much you really love them. death teaches you many lessons. it can teach one to "validate and appreciate the time you have today with your loved ones" (John Edward, Crossing Over TV Show and Book) --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my books and John Edwards TV Show. it all makes you feel closer to the other side/heaven/whatever the name its all the same. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: realising that they are no longer there. when my ex mother in law died, the hardest part for me was watching the utter apin and despair that my ex, his father and the rest of the family was in. apart from when my dog died, i am seriously in agony about the way in which i can see it affecting the ohters who love them too rather than myself first. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: tell them you love them. treat them the same. be open to discuss whatever they want to talk aboput. if they wish to talk about their impending death, let them. just let them know theya re not alone and be with them as much as you can. but do not let them aware if you feel sorry for them. that they might not appreciate. --[My Mother-in-Law's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: yes, i actually just realised that i have learned something from this death.... this woman was the most controlling, vindictive person i had ever and will ever meet, although she was good to me and i loved her. i held strong grudges toward her for thge way she treated others and lived her life, bu tnow i realise it is all wasted energy. it didnt change anything. it only hurt me by causing stress. she would have learned her lesson from this now she has crossed over.i loved her so why hold a grudge. now i just feel guilty. DON'T HOLD GRUDGES. RATHER SIMPLY ADMIT YOU DON'T AGREE AND THEN FORGET ABOUT IT. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: they die, and are gone. they dont move, talk, anything. a lifeless carcass. where are they? you wonder. there they are, but also there they arent. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: i didnt laugh at any point. i find this rather odd..... poor people dont know how to organise and deal with their emotions in a big way i suppose.is it only certain personality types which display this behaviour i wonder... --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: spend more time with her. i wanted to talk to her about death because i knew that she wanted to have that conversation with me. there wasnt ime. luckily she got to have her conversation with our clairvoyant friend, who was the next best person. so im glad. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: oh my god this was definately divinely inspired i thought.... the day of the funeral, my ex's new wife mentioned to by best mate that i could come to their house with them for the afterparty because she wanted to put all our stuff behind her (we had been in constant battle ever since they got together. she was just so spiteful and asggressive. i didnt like her personality and it caused problems coz we have all the smae friends and were young so out all the time. it caused problems for many). after hearing what she said, i initiated contact, hugged her and made up. i also grabbed my ex and told him we have to make up. it was great. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: i put the piece of lavendar in her grave. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: what she was wearing in her coffin and what we wore to respect her --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i recall how her husband sat at the side of the grave in front of everyone, spoke to her out loud and just started bsalling. thqat will haunt me for the rest of my life. her death alone does not illicit tears in me. but that image if him does. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... ? --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that no one is noticing how much i am hurt and want to help all the others who are hurt. im angry you all dont notice how close "Ï" am/was to her. our relationship wass o special!!!!! i was mad coz i wanted everyone to know this, although they did, but they didnt show me it. i think i actuallly wanted more attention and i think i know why. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could ? --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I oh my god. feelings that deep are difficult to put on paper. there are no words. felt as if my body would fall limp to the floor. the world has ended. the poor family. i hope they dont harm themselves. all i want to do is go to them, hug them and not let them, go so they know that they are safe. my ex didnt like me anymore and we werent talking. i care about him so deeply because we were together so long he felt like a part of me and i knew him so well. i knew how he would be feeling and how it would affect him. i was so concerened. all i wanted and felt like i needed to was rush and hug him all better. bu ti couldnt do that. the sight of him broke my heart in this instance. i felt as if he needed me and he was de4nying his need for me. therefore he wouldnt be allright. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: respect for how she was looked after in the whittle ward. it was a beautiful ward and im glad they care enough to create a beautiful environment. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: scared. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing at all. they lie and twist the words of the holy masters. and they are vdery judgemental of others regardless of what they say. they believe their way is the only true way. but it meant something to her so... --Religious Affiliation: it is obvious already it think haha. sometimes i call myself a witch, but i am more of just a spiritualist now. open to all things basically with a belief in the spirit world and a reason for everything --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: completely right and healthy. it is good for people. it lessens the impact of death i feel. --Regarding MONEY: we all donated money toward the wake and he got almost enough to pay for the ot. worked out well. whole funeral was preplanned and paid. --Regarding the FUNERAL: everyone drops grudges and unites. everyone is allowed to cry and do not judge, even if just for that day. all the friends we know were ther. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: that i couldnt hear her voice anymore and i dont see her in the street. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : i wasnt ther. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': i did not expect you to say anything like that. this is exactly my belief system. im sure she was greeted in this manner. she has visited my sister twice because she is the most sensitive of us all and i think she is busy watching over her husband.she believed to a degree this stuff too. we were both withches at a time but i think she forgeot abouti t a bit --RE: Near Death Experiences: my clairvoyant friend. an unseen face... grabbed her hand gently (she was not sick though). a white bright light with a buzzing sound she says is the soiund of the universe. the unseen person ewas going to take her. she was aware that she didnt know who this person was, so was unsure, but it was so beautiful that she wanted to go. a knowingness cam e over her, telling her that if she didnt want to go, all she had to do was to speak, so she did because she would only go if she knew who the person was and that she knew that if she went she wouldnt be comung back. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: the way she controlled people and even me, [articularly her son. --If we were to visit one last conversation... tell her how much i love her and how influential she had been in my life. that she was a uniquely sdpaecial person whose life purpose was to teach to many .... on many levels i woulnt feel so much guilt about the grudges i held --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: there is so much. if you want to know more, i give permission for you to contact me renee lawler rllawler.at.postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au i have experiencved many as have most of the people i know. i mentioned my dog before.... he came to me before the mentioned time. i had balled yself to sleep over his death. i had recently gotten a new puppy, prior to his death. with mind to mind transference, he said "dont worry about me...just worry about raja" which was the puppy. the one imentioned before was actually a little different to what i said.he came to us and showed us how he died because we didnt know and were distraught. it was confirmed by dog pound.... 1080 poison. --Any thoughts about your own death?: i cannot think abput that. its not something i can cope with. if i died, how would my loved ones be affected?? that is my great concern. --What might you like your obit to say of you: she truly had good intentions beneath her stressful exterior. if she had it her way, everyone who was needy in any way would have been taken care of. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: yep. with mother in law, wrote special things in a card. didnt feel right putting it in her grave because relatives might have gotten upset, so i took it home and burned it in the fireplace to symbolically send it to her. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? i do things all the time. mainly i just talk to the deceased, the angels and my guides. i also do magic in the form of creative visualisation, tarot and runes to name but a few. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? yep. my ex's wife. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying my dog "visited" myself, my mum and my sister simultaneously with a message for us to not worry about him. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Knew it was coming i knew for months he would go. i had been dreaming of it and had concious intuitions that i felt were preparing me for it. --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: i wanted to be able to cry about it to my boyfriend, but it didnt end up happening because we were fighting and he moved out on the day of the funeral, so at that time we werent as close so i couldnt. by the time we felt better about each other i felkt too m=cuch time had passed and i had sort of healed. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - it has made me sad, but not necessarily in abd way. it mad eme realise a few things abput myself and be honest with myself. it helped to deal a bit better with things. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? a few questions on the lower half of the middle were a little vague and not very clear what was being asked. slight rewording perhaps. other than that, good and helpful. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See Feb 06 contributions. 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